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Islam and rape

RapeIt is against Islam to rape Muslim women, but Muhammad actually encourages the rape of the other captured in the battle. The Hadith provides the context for the verse of the Koran 4:24.

The Apostle of Allah sent a military expedition to the Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought against him. They conquered them and captured them. Some of the Companions of the Messenger of Allah hesitated to have sex with the prisoners in the presence of their disbelieving men. And Allah, the Exalted One, has sent the Koran a new verse of the Koran:

Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those (captives and slaves) whom your right hands possess. Thus has Allah ordained for you. All others are lawful, provided you seek (them in marriage) with Mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage) from your property, desiring chastity, not committing illegal sexual intercourse, so with those of whom you have enjoyed sexual relations, give them their Mahr as prescribed; but if after a Mahr is prescribed, you agree mutually (to give more), there is no sin on you. Surely, Allah is Ever All-Knowing, All-Wise. (4:24)
"And women already married except those whom you right hands posses" (Abu Dawud 2150 and Muslim 3433)
 

In fact, as the Hadith remarked, it was not Allah, but "Allah the Exalted", who urged men to rape women before their husbands - which is all the more reason to think of Islam differently from other religions.

Note also that the husbands of these unhappy victims were still alive after the fight. This is important because it is the proponents of Islam who like to claim that the women who had enslaved Muhammad, were not able to defend themselves. Even if these proponents of Islam were right, what kind of moral code is it that forces a widow to choose between rape and starvation?

There are several other episodes in which Muhammad is offered the clear possibility to reject the rape of women - and yet he offers advice on how to proceed. In one case, his men hesitated to degrade their new slaves for later reuse by fattening them. Muhammad was asked above all for Coitus Interruptus:

that while he was sitting with Allah's Apostle he said, "O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?"

The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence." (Bukhari 34:432)

 

As indicated, the Prophet of Islam has no objection to the fact that his husbands rape women as long as they ejaculate in the bodies of their victims.

As you can imagine, the obvious approval of Muhammad for the rape of women captured in the battle and his personal involvement, as held in many places, is very unpleasant for the Muslim advocates of our time. For this reason, some of them try to disclose these many episodes and Koran references to sex with prisoners by pretending that they are cases where women had fled from bad marriages and sought shelter with the Muslims. Some of the supporters of Islam even refer to them as "women," although the Koran makes a clear distinction between "those who have their rights" and true women (33:50):

O Prophet (Muhammad)! Verily, We have made lawful to you your wives, to whom you have paid their Mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage), and those (captives or slaves) whom your right hand possesses - whom Allah has given to you, and the daughters of your 'Amm (paternal uncles) and the daughters of your 'Ammah (paternal aunts) and the daughters of your Khal (maternal uncles) and the daughters of your Khalah (maternal aunts) who migrated (from Makkah) with you, and a believing woman if she offers herself to the Prophet, and the Prophet wishes to marry her; a privilege for you only, not for the (rest of) the believers. Indeed We know what We have enjoined upon them about their wives and those (captives or slaves) whom their right hands possess, - in order that there should be no difficulty on you. And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
 

Beyond the despair of the proponents of Islam of the 21st century, however, there is nothing in the historical text that supports this rosy revision of Muslim history. The women of Banu Mustaliq were sold to slavery after their rape:

Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa'id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): 0 Abu Sa'id, did you hear Allah's Messenger (Peace be upon him) mentioning al-'azl?
He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah's Messenger (Peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us;
why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Messenger (Peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born. (Sahih Muslim 3371)

 

In fact, female slaves were traded like any other simple commodity of Muhammad and his gang of devoted followers:

"Then the apostle sent Sa-d b. Zayd al-Ansari, brother of Abdu'l-Ashal with some of the captive women of Banu Qurayza to Najd and he sold them for horses and weapons." (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham/Hisham 693)
 

Is it Islamic to sell one's wife for horses? Clearly these were not wives!

More importantly, by definition a "captured" woman is not one who fled from her husband. She escapes from the Muslim slavery. This Hadith describes a typical attack in which the women and children are captured as they try to flee from the attacking Muslims:

"... and then we attacked from all sides and reached their watering-place where a battle was fought. Some of the enemies were killed and some were taken prisoners. I saw a group of persons that consisted of women and children. I was afraid lest they should reach the mountain before me, so I shot an arrow between them and the mountain. When they saw the arrow, they stopped. So I brought them, driving them along." (Sahih Muslim 4345)
 

The Muslim narrator sees the women who are trying to escape (after the massacre of their husbands) and cut their way by shooting an arrow into their way. These are not women who try to seek refuge with the Muslims. They try to avoid the capture by the Muslims.

The same Hadith tells further that Muhammad personally demanded one of the captured women for his own use:

I drove them along until I brought them to Abu Bakr who bestowed that girl upon me as a prize. So we arrived in Medina. I had not yet disrobed her when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) met me in the street and said: Give me that girl, O Salama. I said: Messenger of Allah, she has fascinated me. I had not yet disrobed her. When on the next day, the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) again met me in the street, he said: O Salama, give me that girl ..." (Sahih Muslim 4345)
 

The Prophet of Islam and his companions used the war to gather women for personal sexual use and commerce. Unless she was arbitrarily declared as someone's wife, the woman became sex slave. In no case was their fate tied to anything they had done personally, nor had they any choice about their future.

 

Islam and the murdering of captives and hostages

CaptivesIslamic terrorists take and kill almost daily hostages. While we are often assured that this practice "has nothing to do with Islam," Muhammad has actually murdered even captives of war and other hostages.

After the Battle of Badr, several defenseless Meccans were slaughtered by Muhammad's companions. These included a man named Umayya and his young son, who were captured by a Muslim (a former friend who sought to protect them), but got afterwards to a mob before they could bring themselves into safety:

"I said (would you attack) my prisoners? But... The people formed a ring around us as I was protecting him. Then a man drew his sword and cut off his son’s foot so that he fell down and Umayya [the boy’s father] let out a cry such as I have never heard… They hewed them to pieces with their swords until they were dead." (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 449)
 

Another heartbreaking depiction of the Islamic chivalry during the same battle concerns Abu Jahl, one of the arch enemies of Muhammad of Mecca. He was killed when he was defenseless. In this case, two Muslims took the opportunity to kill the death toll:

Mu’awwidh passed Abu Jahl as he lay there helpless and smote him until he left him at his last gasp. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 451)
Another Muslim named Abdullah then came by and put his foot on Abu Jahl’s neck and taunted him before decapitating him:
Then I cut off his head and brought it to the apostle saying, "This is the head of the enemy of Allah, Abu Jahl." … I threw his head before the apostle and he gave thanks to Allah. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 451).
 

Apparently, these fellows of Muhammad were not aware that "Islam is against the killing of captives." But who could blame them? Not only the Prophet of Islam praised them for their slaughtering, but he also ordered them to kill another captive.

Uqba bin Abu Mu'ayt pleaded for his life:

When the apostle ordered him to be killed, Uqba said, “But who will look after my children, O Muhammad?”
[Muhammad’s reply] “Hell.”
The man was put to death. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 458)
 

Other prisoners were ransomed, but Uqba received special treatment because he had mocked Muhammad in Mecca. His crime was that, for the pleasure of other Meccans, he had thrown the guts of a dead animal upon Muhammad's back when he prayed (Muslim 4422, Ibn Ishaq / Hisham 277). The Prophet of Islam noted that this fraternity stroke was worth killing. He was the first of several other occasions in which people were killed on Muhammad's order that mocked him.

Interestingly, it seems that Muhammad did not regret to kill all his prisoners, instead of demanding ransom. Verse 8:67 of the Quran was "revealed" in the succession of Badr:

It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war (and free them with ransom) until he had made a great slaughter (among his enemies) in the land. You desire the good of this world (i.e. the money of ransom for freeing the captives), but Allah desires (for you) the Hereafter. And Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise.

 

The Prophet of Islam continued his bloodshed with the execution of many other captives. Infamous is the execution of 800 captured in Qurayza men and boys. His men also brutally murdered an elderly woman named Umm Qirfa who got captured from the Banu Fazara tribe. According to al-Tabari, she was killed by placing a rope on each leg and the other end to a camel, then driving the two camels apart until the woman was torn to pieces." The daughter of the women got afterwards distributed to one of the Muslim murderers if her mother.

While it is common to hear from the Muslims that their religion is "against" killing of captives and hostages, the actual history of Islam proves that nothing could be more far away from the truth.

 

Intelligence is not available for purchasing - even not for a Sheikh

Sheikh Saleh bin Saad al-LuhaidanThe Saudi Arabian Sheikh Saleh bin Saad al-Luhaidan needs to be happy that stupidity does not hurt, because otherwise he would yell day and night.

The useless Sheikh Saleh bin Saad al-Luhaidan, a Private Attorney General and the Psychological Advisor of the Psychological Association in the Gulf states, stated:

Driving could have a reverse physiological impact. Physiological science and functional medicine studied this side [and found] that it automatically affects ovaries and rolls up the pelvis. This is why we find for women who continuously drive cars their children are born with clinical disorders of varying degrees.

Such a statement shows the missing and miserable education from Sheikh Saleh bin Saad al-Luhaidan. I wonder myself how he is able to survive with such a mental illness, which seems to be a result of inbreeding and child marriage. Buy the way in the civilized world gets a sexual interaction between an adult and a minor called and prosecuted as a rape. Only in stone age cultures is such an interaction between adults and minors allowed.

Arabic newspaper Sabq reported in this case:

Al-Luhaidan stated that in the days of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him), muslim women who were his companions used to ride horses and camels as means of transportation but never rode alone and were always accompanied by a ‘mahram’.

Al-Luhaidan further explained that there are exceptional cases that allow women to drive in Saudi Arabia such as when a husband is driving accompanied by his wife and daughter and an accident occurred. It is then allowed for women to drive due to the urgency of the situation.

Al-Luhaidan added that driving could have a reverse physiological impact on women and could affect her ovaries and push the pelvis higher as a result of which their children are born with clinical disorders of varying degrees.

He further stated that 33% female drivers caused car accidents in Arab countries as opposed to 9% male.

If I read such statements then I think that I need to include into my next prayer: "Oh God, please throw brain from heaven. Here are some people who need it very urgently".

The kingdom "reduces women to the status of children, unable to make important decisions about their lives," Human Rights Watch said in a statement and Amnesty International said that the driving ban is "discriminatory and demeaning to women and must be overturned immediately".

Here is a video about this sensational proof of missing intelligence:

Transcription of the video:

a saudi arabian sheik as noted a study from a religious organization indicating
that women in Saudi Arabia shouldn't drive because they don't damage their
pelvis and their
ovaries these are simple have to bear children I mean that's the only thing
they're good for
so we can't have them driving in cars that's terrible
up now of course this study has absolutely no
scientific research or scientific merit but the ship did say
that yet of course physiological signs and functional medicine study decided
found that
automatically affects over reason rules up the pelvis
I roles up but I love for me to get pregnant this is crazy
this is why we find for women who continuously drive cars their children
are born with clinical disorders a varying degrees
well look this he's very very scientific its varying degrees of disorder
okay so let me take your chances you roll your ovaries and pelvis
you never know what comes up when america little difference over there K
he said the Rebbe is the only country in the world that doesn't allow a manager I
know it's incredible I mean you have so many other countries that
severely violate human rights and especially women's rights
yet Saudi Arabia still the only country that doesn't allow women to drive any
women have been protests in Saudi Arabia for the last four years
for the ability to drive and some have been arrested someone has dealt with
lashings as a result and I hope we continue to fight back
but I just find it laughable that anyone in Saudi Arabia would take this study
from a religious organization seriously no one's buying it oh why would even try
so several things on that first will the person you're alluding to shine my
just the Neo's 34 who sent us that 10 lashes they whipped her
for the grave offense of driving a a car
but that was all the way back in 2011 okay so just two years ago that happen
and then the Saturday be amazingly
only finish the 130 other 134 countries
on gender parity cheeses who's worse on gender parity the Saudi Arabia
so that's amazing but so in order to avail this
if you will a.m. the the cloak of sigh so they could say like alter scientific
study
over a sprawling over is gone damage trade
they brought in former professor at King Fahd University so you know is that
biased
come also be he didn't think I'm opposed to be the guy was valued at over so
there's that they're fucked
didn't well in order to get pregnant I guess they're packed
pedicure a it's a 0 this is the same
alleged for professor who earlier had testified that
well if you allow women to drive obviously we will have increases in
prostitution
pornography and homosexuality and that's usually how it works he's got got a
point there
whenever I see a woman driving I lean over to bob and I see guys wanna make
out
you how insane is that
if you let women drive well obviously
dudes will turn your no but thank you how easily emasculated and how terribly
weak
the men in saudi arabia I mean I'm sure there are men in saudi arabia that are
in favor of allowing women to drive
I'm talking about the religious leaders that are so scared the think that if
they give their women a little bit of freedom
there immediately gonna do crazy shit because they're so unhappy with the
relationships they have with these pathetic losers
if they think they'll turn to prostitution doctor for Tyree because I
was they would want guys who wanna porn
and then a it's a will lead to more divorces another thing by
alleged professor sue be %uh okay and
and then ultimately they'll turn to other women because I like well
obviously since we're pathetic
and we can never keep a woman all this week keeper literally wrapped up
and literally in the home so she can even runaways Cape to the mall
okay but will obviously she leave us cuz we suck
an that's what the leadership saturday via saying love course among the young
Saudi Arabia
as in a lotta countries they rebel against the speakers so
they find it out as outrageous as we do an egg I have to live in it let not just
the women but the men as well
I'll but this is it that to catch it in science
is whole larisa layers in just one final thing that they like to fear monger
about within 10 years the ban being lifted
the report's authors others claimed there would be
quote no virgins in the Islamic Kingdom
I you thought I it's
in space I'm not sure they understand what the word virgin its
you see when I what happens as soon as the baby is born
feel like ten years ago we let somebody drive
I expect
hug every no more purchase its its it's absurd on two fronts yes because of what
you're saying
and also because I mean it lot just the idea that
being able to drive is gonna convince women to go out there and just have sex
with everyone
and that's the only word that they have if they're not virgins well then they're
worthless
right that's the only thing that you should emphasize about that and one
final point
apparently they believe that they're wrong that
if you if they do not restrict your freedom
that you will choose an alternative path if they believe that if you're
completely free
then you would follow the path that they have laid out the mission be worried
about cars or kinda clothing et cetera
women would naturally be just as religious as Saudi Arabia wants them to
be there were following the path of God et cetera right
apparently you think well they're not going to do that cuz obviously were
wrong
and so we can allow them to have any freedom
because if we do then they'll realize were jackasses and then what was in
there was any more
can you imagine not being able to go anywhere unless you have some sort of
like chauffeur
or some some guardian who like takes you to where you need to go
and a look super final point that's exactly
the subjugation that they desire that everything that a woman does she must
check with either husband her father
her brother like so you must get permission for
every single thing you do and
to these prophetic guys editors
interim leadership is an area where they think well
I mean that's only going get them to ever love us right
I like if we give them a choice they obviously wouldn't choose us
so weak

Here another video about the same case:

 

Dr. Saleh al-Saabdoon declares all Muslims to be rapists

Saleh al-SaabdoonThe western world has long been presumed that Muslims are rapists. The percentage of rape increases with the increase of Muslim refugees in the Western world. Now the suspicion got confirmed by the historian Dr. Saleh al-Saabdoon. He tried to justify the nation's ban on female drivers. He said during a TV interview given at the Saudi Rotana Khalijiyya TV that women who drive in other countries, such as the United States, don't care if they're raped and that sexual violence "is no big deal to them."

Saleh al-Saadoon claimed in the interview that women can be raped when a car breaks down, but unlike other countries, Saudi Arabia protects its women from that risk by not allowing them to drive in the first place, according to a translation posted online by the Middle East Media Research Institute.

The intelligence of the historian Dr. Saleh al-Saabdoon seems to be awesome and reflects the education system from the Muslim Universities and countries. He even did not think about it that women can get raped from their drivers too. Asked about this fact he replied: "There is a solution, but the authorities and the clergy refuse to take a note of it. The solution is to hire foreign women drivers for driving our women.". With other words: Only the driving woman will get raped and not the female passenger. Oh Lord, please let brain raining from the sky.

Saudi Historian Dr. Saleh Al-Saadoon at Rotana Khalijiyya TV (Saudi Arabia) January 11, 2015:

Saleh Al-Saadoon: Women used to ride camels, so one might ask what prevents them from driving cars. In Saudi Arabia, we have special circumstances. The city of Arar is 150 km away from Al-Jawf. From Al-Awf to Al-Ha'il it is 400 km. If a woman drives from one city to another and her car breaks down, what will become of her?

Reporter: Well, women drive in America, in Europe, and in the Arab world…

Saleh Al-Saadoon: They don't care if they are raped on the roadside, but we do…

Reporter: Hold on, who told you that they don't care about getting raped by the roadside?

Saleh Al-Saadoon: It's no big deal for them beyond the damage to their morale. In our case, however, the problem is of a social and religious nature.

Reporter: What is rape if not a blow to the morale of the woman? That goes deeper than the social damage.

Saleh Al-Saadoon: But in our case, it affects the family …

Reporter: What, society and the family are more important than the woman’s morale?

Saleh Al-Saadoon: Perhaps morale is part of the problem, but it is not the problem itself. There is also the religious aspect. I will give you two examples …

Reporter: The other guests appear to be in shock …

Saleh Al-Saadoon: Well, they should listen to me and get used to what society thinks. If they are really so out of touch with it …

Reporter: You are afraid that a woman might be raped by the roadside by soldiers, but you are not afraid that she might be raped by her chauffeur?

Saleh Al-Saadoon: Of course I am. There is a solution, but the government officials and the clerics refuse to hear of it.

Reporter: What is this solution?

Saleh Al-Saadoon: The solution is to bring in female foreign chauffeurs to drive our wives. Why not? Why not? Are you with me on this?

Such men can only get married with children. Normal thinking women would not chose them as their husband. These kind of men are simple too stupid for everything. Accordingly was the reaction of the international press and there was a recent interview about the international reactions:

Reporter: A few days ago, about a month after the interview, excerpts from the interview appeared in Western and European media and other outlets. The international press published detailed excerpts in various languages. Why did the interview raise such a great uproar, and how does Dr. Al-Saadoon respond to the international media coverage of his views on women's driving?

Saleh Al-Saadoon: [The media's response to what I said] was a surprise by any standard. I was especially surprised by the false translation. This was not an objective translation or a simple mistake. This was a deliberate and methodical falsification. I don't know if…

Reporter: How can you talk about falsification? They presented a video excerpt, not just something written. What was written was a detailed translation of the interview.

Saleh Al-Saadoon: They translated what I said. As you recall, sister Nadeen, we talked, but I did not say: "Women who drive cars do not care about being raped." The Daily Mail, for example, wrote: "A Saudi historian says that American women drive cars because rape is no big deal for them." This is not what I said.

I explained that they have no problem [with rape] from the religious and social aspects. Their problem is limited to their morale and to psychological aspects. I continue to maintain this. Western women are liberal. They are not governed by Christianity. They do not believe in Christianity.

Unless they are old, Western women are usually not religious – except for a handful of women who go proselytizing in Africa.

According to Islamic scholars, women are forbidden to ride in a taxi driven by a foreigner. If she does so, and the driver kidnaps and rapes her, she will be partially responsible, because she exposed herself to danger.

This is not my view. I'm just telling you the view of society. Don't blame me for conveying the views of 80% of Arab and Islamic society.

Reporter: Some people turn the victim into the criminal, but these views do not represent 80% of us.

Saleh Al-Saadoon: Many Saudis, Arabs, and Muslims hold this view – regardless of whether it is 70% or 90%.

As the reporter has been a woman does it look like the Muslim men have a defect in their gens. As soon as their little man is standing the body has not enough blood to serve their brain, but we know that the education in the Muslim countries has no quality. They are still at stone-age level as their law, the Sharia, reflects this impression too. Such people cannot get taken serious as long such stupidity does not get replaced from a little bit intelligence.

Here is another video in reaction to the interview above:

Transcription from the video:

Order Mad as Hell on iTunes Available now Now this story is atrocious in a lot of ways but it does have a funny element because the guy talking here what the Saudis call a historian and he's going to talk about why women are not allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia and why they are allowed to drive in West and that's the most interesting part so the middle east media research institute reported this and the Huffington Post wrote about it recently.

His name Saleh al-Saabdoon and he claimed in a recent TV interview that women can be raped when a car breaks down but unlike other countries Saudi Arabia protects its women from that risk by not allowing them to drive in the first place. Oh that's why they can't drive cause if they drove there's a tiny percentage change that they would break down and then they would obviously be immediately raped so here is Saleh al-Saaboon Saudi historian explain the phenomena to us. He says about the westerners they don't care if they are raped on the roadside but we do. OK I was not aware of that but he is a historian so it's hard to argue he says it's no big deal for them beyond the damage to their moral in our cause. However the problem is of a social and religious nature. Isn't that amazing? Man he's saying like oh you got raped. I mean for the western women it's just a moral problem right, but for us it's also a religious problem. So it's much more serious. That's not really how I view rape. I think is the serious part you're religious views about it is a little less important but obviously he doesn't view it that way and even the anchors and one of them was a female anchors covered her head and was like oh my god what do you say? That's cause you can't really justify not allowing women to drive. It makes no sense. Whatsoever right so you have to come up with nonsense things like this. Oh yeah no no western women rape is no big deal to them. So now let's be fair to the guy he apparently did have a solution, because you know one of the anchors asked him. They said well what their male tribers rape. Good question. OK there is a solution but the government officials and the clerics refuse to hear of it. The solution is to bring in foreign chauffeurs to drive our wives. I don't know why I didn't think of that before. They how do you give women more rights give them female chauffeurs of course. Isn't this insane this is one of the top allies of the United States of America that we protect these guys to no end the ISIS they do beheadings so do the Saudis oh Iraq they did 9/11 no they didn't 17 out of the 19 high jackers were Saudis and you have people like this Saudi historian talking about why you should never let women drive and the only reason westerners do is because they don't mind the rape. OK by the way if women do drive what's the punishment. Well Saudi women face serious penalties if they are caught driving including lashing. So get a lot of this their idea of how to protect women. Is we don't want you to get raped. So if you drive we will beat you with a whip. We'll whip you. OK and it's not theoretical right. Now two women who defined the ban on driving last year, Loujain al-Hathloul and Maysa al-Amoundi, who by the way are amazing heroes are being tried in a court that handles terror cases but that is fitting cause for the Saudi royals and the government and the people in power in Saudi Arabia. That is what strikes terror in their hearts a liberated woman. On the lighter side of things we did find the exchange with Saudi government of the issue of women driving and other rights. They might have and this a Young Turks exclusive. So we want to show it to you so you can judge for yourself if Ferengi females could wear cloths in public then they can leave their homes. If they can leave their homes then they can go to work. If they go work they can make profit. What's the matter? Quark afraid of a little competition? OK that might not have been the Saudis, but the Saudis do make similar claims as the Ferengi that the rest of us humans shamelessly cloth our women and want the other to unclothe them. Isn't it sad that there is a legitimate comparison between the Saudis and the Ferengi.