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Koran: People of other religions in this world are to be severely punished

ViolenceAllah himself is fighting the unbelievers (9:30), why should Muslims no longer fight in his cause as in the cause of evil (4:76)? About 19% of the Quran devote themselves to the violent conquest and subjugation of non-Muslims:

And make ready against them all you can of power, including steeds of war (tanks, planes, missiles, artillery, etc.) to threaten the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides whom, you may not know but whom Allah does know. And whatever you shall spend in the Cause of Allah shall be repaid unto you, and you shall not be treated unjustly. (8:60)
 
O Prophet (Muhammad)! Strive hard against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be severe against them, their abode will be Hell, and worst indeed is that destination. (66:9 - see also 9:73)
 

Muslims expect a reward in this life as well as in the next one (4:134), so it makes sense that even in this life unbelievers are getting punished:

Is then He (Allah) Who takes charge (guards, maintains, provides, etc.) of every person and knows all that he has earned (like any other deities who know nothing)? Yet they ascribe partners to Allah. Say: "Name them! Is it that you will inform Him of something He knows not in the earth or is it (just) a show of false words." Nay! To those who disbelieve, their plotting is made fairseeming, and they have been hindered from the Right Path, and whom Allah sends astray, for him, there is no guide. (13:33)

For them is a torment in the life of this world, and certainly, harder is the torment of the Hereafter. And they have no protector against Allah. (13:34)

 

There are at least two places in the Quran, where the violent death of non-Muslims is designated as Allah's reward for unbelief (2:191, 9:26), as in "that is the reward for unbelievers." Verse 3:56 states that "those who reject faith" are punished with terrible torment in this world (a vow that Muhammad and his companions took personally to fulfill).

The Quran tells Muslims that Allah uses them to severely punish others:

Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people, (9:14)
 

Verse 4:102, says that Allah has prepared a humiliating torment for the unbelievers. Stories from Muhammad's life show only minor differences between the punishment of Allah and the violence from the hands of faithful Muslims.

Allah can kill unbelievers by himself, but he makes it a test for Muslims to prove their faith:

So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives). Thereafter (is the time) either for generosity (i.e. free them without ransom), or ransom (according to what benefits Islam), until the war lays down its burden. Thus [you are ordered by Allah to continue in carrying out Jihad against the disbelievers till they embrace Islam (i.e. are saved from the punishment in the Hell-fire) or at least come under your protection], but if it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost, (47:4)
 

One of the most brutal chapters in the Quran makes Muhammad and his followers to the "superior over all religions" (9:33).

Verse 8:55 compares unbelievers with animals. In line with this issue, this passage encourages the Muslims to win over them "dominance" and severely punish and intimidate the rest:

So if you gain the mastery over them in war, punish them severely in order to disperse those who are behind them, so that they may learn a lesson. (8:57)
 

At the end, all beings in heaven and on earth will be compelled to bow down in front of Allah, either willingly or by force:

And unto Allah (Alone) falls in prostration whoever is in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly, and so do their shadows in the mornings and in the afternoons. (13:15)
 

Muslims are told that "Allah loves those who fight in his own way" that Islam is "victorious over all other religions", even though the unbelievers resist (61:4-11). Those who resist against the Islam will get humbled:

Those who oppose Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), they will be among the lowest (most humiliated). (58:20 - The context for this verse is the expulsion of the Jewish tribes from Medina and the confiscation of their wealth, land and children by Muhammad)
 

Non-Muslims are to be fought until all religion is only for Allah:

And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do. (8:39 - Some translate the word "fitna" as "persecution," but in this context it means resistance to Islam - in the predecessor version as unwillingness to believe [cf verse 8:38]. This passage was "revealed" after a battle that deliberately provoked by Muhammad. Verse 2:193 essentially says the same, and was also "revealed" at a time when the Muslims were not under physical attack).

 

Those with "sick hearts," including Christians and Jews according to verse 5:52, are said to be "slaughtered" (33:60-2) along with the "hypocrites" (Muslims, who cannot get judged as true believers for their associations with unbelievers or their unwillingness), or should engage themselves in jihad.

Non-Muslims are to be attacked, set under pressure and punished by the Muslims

See they not that We gradually reduce the land (of disbelievers, by giving it to the believers, in war victories) from its outlying borders. And Allah judges, there is none to put back His Judgement and He is Swift at reckoning.. (13:41 see also 21:44)
 
Then leave Me alone with such as reject this Message: by degrees shall We punish them from directions they perceive not. (68:44)
 
And He caused you to inherit their lands, and their houses, and their riches, and a land which you had not trodden (before). And Allah is Able to do all things. (33:27 - see also Bukhari 53:392)
 

Allah will grant the Muslims power and authority over all other humans:

Allah has promised those among you who believe, and do righteous good deeds, that He will certainly grant them succession to (the present rulers) in the earth, as He granted it to those before them, and that He will grant them the authority to practise their religion, that which He has chosen for them (i.e. Islam). And He will surely give them in exchange a safe security after their fear (provided) they (believers) worship Me and do not associate anything (in worship) with Me. But whoever disbelieved after this, they are the Fasiqun (rebellious, disobedient to Allah). (24:55)

Muhammad's companion continued this prophecy with an aggressive and senseless military expansion that left a trace of the dead from Spain through North Africa to India.

Allah gives the Muslims instructions for dealing with unbelievers who are not willing to accept Islamic rules:

(Remember) when your Lord inspired the angels, "Verily, I am with you, so keep firm those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes." (8:12)
This is because they defied and disobeyed Allah and His Messenger. And whoever defies and disobeys Allah and His Messenger, then verily, Allah is Severe in punishment. (8:13)
 

To defeat Non-Muslims should be easy for true believers because they are superior in intelligence and understanding:

O Prophet (Muhammad)! Urge the believers to fight. If there are twenty steadfast persons amongst you, they will overcome two hundred, and if there be a hundred steadfast persons they will overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are people who do not understand. (8:65)

Well, with the intelligence of the Muslims it should not be far. They are so intelligent that they cannot life together. In addition, they may be so busy with praying that there is no time left for other things in life. One can see also the amount of the inventions of the last 1400 years, in which Muslims have been involved, how intelligent the Muslims are.

Remember that the Quran teaches that not all people are equal to Islam. This also applies to Muslims with regard to their aggressiveness towards the unbelievers. Those who are killed or killed in the name of Islam rejoice Allah more:

Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward; (4:95)

 

Why the Quran is Not from Allah: 10 Reasons

QuranThe Quran makes a great deal of cases about itself. It says that it is the ideal and upright disclosure of God to man, and that it is important to the point that it has existed endlessly on tablets in paradise.

Faultfinders assert that it is a seriously masterminded gathering of citations from one man, go off as the expression of God to a guileless crowd in a primitive society. At the point when blamed for being a lunatic, for instance, Muhammad would go into his tent and afterward develop with a pearl 'from Allah' like, "You (Muhammad) are not a madman" (68:2). The general population would then take this as evidence that he was most certainly not.

A few Muslims say that the Quran would not be accepted by such a large number of today in the event that it were not valid. In any case, conviction does not make truth – especially when it must be indecently implemented with segregation, mutilating and demise.

Truth be told, most Muslims have never perused the Quran, a book they (in any case) will murder and pass on over. Their conviction depends on what they get notification from different Muslims, especially as they are growing up.

A target peruser would probably reason that the Quran is less a result of awesome root than Muhammad's creative energy and the conditions in which he got himself.

Here are ten quick cases:

  1. As specified, regardless of being a little book, the Quran should be the immortal, unchangeable expression of God. Why might God utilize valuable and significant space on the individual existence of one man - a similar one who happens to portray the "disclosure"?

    Consider verse 33:53:

    O you who believe! Enter not the Prophet's houses, except when leave is given to you for a meal, (and then) not (so early as) to wait for its preparation. But when you are invited, enter, and when you have taken your meal, disperse, without sitting for a talk. Verily, such (behaviour) annoys the Prophet, and he is shy of (asking) you (to go), but Allah is not shy of (telling you) the truth.

    That must be deified on a tablet in paradise?

    Significant bits of the Quran (especially suras 33 and 66) are similarly self-serving and address the sex, cash or regard from his spouses to which Muhammad is entitled. Additionally, a few such sections are redundant.

    Couldn't Allah have thought about a more critical message for humanity than letting us know (a few times over) that Muhammad may lay down with a boundless number of ladies?

  2. The Quran says that composed duplicates of the Bible (Torah and Gospel) existed at the season of Muhammad (29:46, 3:3, 3:78) and a considerable number verses "affirm" that those duplicates are valid (regardless of the possibility that the Jews and Christians were later blamed for misconstruing them "with their tongues"). Parts of the Quran clearly depend on the Bible for culmination and numerous verses demand that the Word of God can't be changed or debased.

    Here's the issue:

    There are several New Testament original copies that pre-date the season of Muhammad, all found at various times and better places by various individuals. There are hundreds a greater amount of the Torah. All concur splendidly with the current adaptation of the Bible, which repudiates the Quran.

    In the meantime, not a solitary duplicate or part of either the Torah or Gospel from any period has ever been discovered which veers off in a way that concurs with the Quran.

    How is that the "genuine" Bible - the one that as far as anyone knows affirms the Quran - never made due in any shape, while such a large number of "defiled" duplicates did?

    Is it safe to say that it isn't more probable that Muhammad basically made it up as he came and later blamed Christians and Jews as a main story for his own particular missteps?

  3. Not at all like the Old Testament prophets, Muhammad described negligible safeguards of his claim as a prophet (and even his own particular rational soundness) that are strikingly excess.

    For instance, no less than 8 entries (83:13, 27:68, 46:17, 16:24, 6:25, 26:137, 25:5 and 23:83) say that "Allah's messenger" is blamed for rehashing "tales of the ancients," yet that any individual who doesn't trust him will smolder in Hell. Is there any good reason why allah wouldn't simply say it once and afterward utilize the rest of the space for something all the more illuminating?

    Isn't this a greater amount of what one would anticipate from an excessively cautious poseur than from an interminable disclosure of God to man?

  4. The Quran says that it is "clear", yet then says somewhere else (3:7) that lone Allah comprehends the importance of a few verses (which makes one wonder of why they are there). It says that it clarifies "all things" (16:89), however then advises Muslims to take after the case of Muhammad (33:21) - without saying what that is.

    In down to earth terms, it is difficult to comprehend the Quran without references to outer sources, for example, the Hadith and Sira (generally laid out in voluminous commentaries). However these sources are regularly conflicting and never concurred on.

    Indeed, even in the Quran, passionate Muslim researchers induce drastically extraordinary implications from similar verses. For instance, most elucidations of 38:33 say that Solomon sliced at his own steeds, disjoining their legs and necks. Notwithstanding, some contemporary interpreters, including a standout amongst the most regarded (Yusuf Ali) say that Solomon truly just ignored his hand their bodies affectionately.

    Additional disturbing (and shockingly more run of the mill) are verses like 5:33, which orders killing the individuals who "wage war on Allah"... without truly clarifying what this implies.

  5. The Quran tells Muslim men that they may engage in sexual relations with ladies caught as slaves. Far more terrible: the entry is rehashed in four better places. By differentiation, there is not a solitary verse that advises Muslims that they are to supplicate five times each day.

  6. The Quran confounds Mary the mother of Jesus with Mary the sister of Aaron (and Moses) in Sura 19.

    In spite of tormented rational theology, the least difficult and most evident clarification is that Muhammad was mixed up. This would likewise clarify why the Quran that he described wrongly expresses that Christians revere the Virgin Mary as a divine being (5:75, 5:116) when they never have.

  7. Regardless of being a moderately little book, the Quran contains pointless repetitions. Moses is specified 136 times. A few sections of misquoted Bible stories are almost word-for-word indistinguishable (e.g. Suras 20 and 26).

    Why might God squander space saying basically a similar thing in regards to something dark when he could have offered clear good standards about peace, resistance (or sex with youngsters)?

  8. Such an extensive amount the Quran is committed to repetitive cases and dangers about Muhammad's status as a prophet, yet there is not a solitary unique good esteem. No place does it advise men not to assault ladies or forgo sex with kids. Actually, it gives men consent to assault their slaves and suggests that sex with kids is passable (verse 65:4).

    Wouldn't a flawless book show consummate ethical quality?

  9. Verse 5:3 says that the Islamic religion was "perfected" and "finished" on "this day", yet 249 more verses tail it, including two extra Suras (9 and 110).

    Additionally, how could the Quran be interminable if sometime in the past it was not finished?

  10. Verse 27:91 peruses "For me, I have been commanded to serve the Lord of this city." If these are the expressions of Allah, then it would imply that somebody is "commanding" him to serve another god. The verse just bodes well if Muhammad is talking from his own particular point of view.

    (This would likewise clarify why "Allah" guarantees to Allah in no less than seven different verses).

Timeless... unchangeable... perfect?
Mmm... maybe not.

 

Misinterpretation - Freedom of Religion: "O Allah, grant victory, dignity and empowerment to our brothers Mujahideen (Jihadists) ..."

Every religion/people think that their religion is superior. Why can't we respect our differences and be respectful? Is religion the only thing what the people have learned in some parts of the world? Is it in this case religion not a brainwashing? If you read in the international news additional about the prayer from the Imam of the Great Mosque in Mecca, what is beginning with "O Allah, grant victory, dignity and empowerment to our brothers Mujahideen (Jihadists) ...", then you know as a normal person the intentions of the followers from this Imam with the name Abdurrahman ibn Abdulaziz as-Sudais.

Recently I got an invitation to show which reputation the Islam has for the remaining part of the world. The nature of the people is that bad news keeping longer in memory than good ones. The Islam is a totalitarian system and does not really know the word freedom. Examples for the totalitarian system can get found in masses by browsing the news sites where the leaders of the Islam are getting cited. In the same way you’ll find negative news in masses about the crime coming in the name of Allah to the countries of the "non believers".

As everybody participating in the social networks is speaking English and can find understandable news in the Internet and my mother tongue is German, I have decided to bring up an actual case from the German mainstream news sites. Mainstream news sites are the opinion makers of the crowd. The result has been the an article, which I have distributed with the following description and link at the social networks (Facebook, LinkedIn and Twitter):

Is the sentence that the Islam is a peaceful religion only a bad joke?

Some claim that Islam is a religion of peace, and the jihadists are just wacky fringe groups. Extremists precisely. This especially in the West cherished by non-Muslims was wishful thinking now, corrected by Abdul Rahman Al-Sudais, the imam and Quran reciter from the "Sacred Mosque" of Mecca. The Salafist and Wahabit Imam Abdul Rahman Al-Sudais applies Sunni Muslims as one of the most reliable and popular interpreters of the Koran.
https://myopinion.wwpa.com/post/is-the-sentence-that-the-islam-is-a-peaceful-religion-only-a-bad-joke

The basis for the report of the main stream news sites is a prayer from the Saudi Imam Abdurrahman ibn Abdulaziz as-Sudais of Mecca's Grand Mosque, which is a war declaration from Saudi Arabia against the rest of the world and got live distributed from the Egyptian TV station:

The good news are coming from an Egyptian TV commentator who roasted the Wahhabi Imam of Mecca's Grand Mosque, Abdurrahman ibn Abdulaziz as-Sudais. As bad news are riding on a jet plane while good news are taking a snail are got this good news, which are showing that not all Muslims are from the same kind, not published in the main stream media. The business from the media site is done with their headlines. Bad news are bringing more readers than good ones. Here is the video of the Egyptian TV commentator:

Here is a transcript from the English sub-titles:

TV Commentator: What does he say in his prayer?

Prayer: O Allah, grant victory, dignity and empowerment to our brothers Mujahideen (Jihadists) in Yemen, in Sham (Syria) and Iraq and everywhere.
O Lords of the Worlds grant them victory over the godless Rafidah (Shia Muslims), grant them victory over the treacherous Jews and over the spiteful Christians and over the untrusted hypocrites.
Oh Allah, grant them victory, help and strength.

TV Commentator: Rafidah (Shia Muslims), Jews, Christians?!!!
And then you wonder when a Mosque is exploded in Najran?!
A Shia’s mosque in Saudi Arabia?!
Listen!
All the people around the world are their enemies!
All the people are enemies to Salafis!
They are the only saved group!
They’re the only true Muslims, The Wahhabis and Salafis
All the other people are enemies and should be defeated
Rafidah (Shia Muslims), Jews and Christians
We will kill them all. We will fight them all
They’re talking about Muslims and about Jews and Christians in general
Not even the American coalition in which they are part of
No. No.
And then we ask ourselves how Daesh (ISIS) was created. Are you ridiculing us?
Then you say "we will fight terrorism!"
Fighting terrorism?! Are you ridiculous?
You are the source of terrorism. You are the terrorism itself.
Let’s have a break

Here are some links from news sites with a good reputation which have reported about this case in the German speaking countries (Austria, Germany and Switzerland):

The same way as the Muslims do not differ between the subcategories of other religions from the World nobody else will differ between the subcategories of the Islam. Main stream news sites and TV stations are the opinion makers and a war declaration to the rest of the world, which gets done from the Imam of the Grand Mosque in Mecca is nothing what can get ignored. Such leaders are promoting the image from the Islam to the rest of the world. In civilized countries such hate preachers would end up in jail and would not find some audition any more. Freedom is one of the base values in the Western World. There is also a Freedom of Religion included, but each freedom ends there where the freedom from others will get limited or influenced. Everybody has his right of freedom and not only some.

Abdul Rahman Al-SudaisSuch hate preachers and wannabe warlords like the Imam from the Grand Mosque in Mecca, Abdul Rahman Al-Sudais, are the reputation of the Islam. They like to distribute their totalitarian system all over the world and are stupid enough to think that they can do everything without punishment. Does anyone think that other countries will use millions of dollars everyday for making a firework by throwing their bombs against the Daesh (ISIS) as the Muslims are not able by themselves to stop the terrorists and such preachers? Don't forget the Islamic terror started 1983, more than 33 years ago and not with the Syrian conflict. At WikiPedia you'll find an incomplete list from the Islamic terror attacks. That list and the speeches and hate-prayers from the leading Imams are making the reputation of the Islam in the mainstream media of the world. Such news are remembering others about their own dark history. Each child of the Western World is learning in the school about the history and all children of the Western World have to visit the schools for at least 8 years. This rule is forced by law.

If we take a look at the Muslim Population of the world from the year 2014, then we see that a minority likes to rule the world. The Muslims are even not able to make peace under each other, how they will be able to rule the world?

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As we have seen from the comments from the of the Egypt TV station seems it come to the same situation like the world has been before World War II as Hitler has declared his war against the Jews. I think everybody knows how the story has ended. You need only compare the prayer from Abdurrahman ibn Abdulaziz as-Sudais with the ideology from Hitler and you'll not find any difference.

Under such circumstances I expected a real shit storm for my article in the social networks. Only in the LinkedIn group Better Future4Earthlings a discussion about the topic has started and got a lot of comments.

The first comment made Zaheer Mirza, the moderator of the group Better Future4Earthlings. I fully agree with the following comments he wrote:

Zaheer MirzaHi Rudolf Faix ... thank you for posting this ... I urge calm discussion in this ... those who agree give reasons rather than be swayed by emotions ... and those that disagree please give reasons based on Quran and Hadith (life of prophet Muhammad PBUH) ... this is not easy ... but essential dialogue if we are to reduce/eliminate divides.


What people believe in is their personal matter ... we should only talk about how it impacts us ... we are not here to discuss merits of theologies and doctrines ... but rather the actions of others that are making our lives unbearable and then understanding the root causes of the behaviour.

An comment which describes situation in the best way has been coming from Pam Stofle:

Pam StofleIt's a difficult conversation. Period. I was raised to believe the holy book of Islam says it is ok to kill infidel. Without anyone to ask, because separation was the way in my neighborhood. It just stuck. Bring in media and it's easy to believe. Dating back for me to fear of leaders in Iran 70s and Libya, we had evidence to perpetuate the belief.
It wasn't until I made a pen pal , OBVIOUSLY before the internet, that I realized the news is not fact. My little friend was from a tiny island Qatar. She asked me the most amazing questions. Do all of you wear cone heads then burn black face people on fire? Do all of you wear mini skirt and show your cleavage to men? Do all of you kill babies? Why to Christ followers hate and kill bombing everyone everywhere? Why does America favor one small place and take land to give to Jews.? Do all Americans kill each other and dance naked at musical events? Why do Americans shoot their police. Why do the divide by white and everyone else?
You get the point
I was in 6th grade.
Shocked
Sad and certain there was no hope for world peace. As media became more powerful, I questioned everything.
I protested every war, and also became agnostic for decades.
I am back with Christianity, only because I saw the possibilities for mutual aid when Islam and Christian helped after earthquakes or floods.
I'm sorry for us all.
My answer is simple, just keep being you. The light in you shines through. Yes your head coverings may scare us here, but also are you afraid our smutty dressed girls will influence your daughter's. We must find a way to let our children heal. Know, read watch the truth. Just a grandma remembering my little friend
Blessings
Humbly
Pam

The comment from Pam is correct describing the situation from people, who don't know how everything started - a war which started 33 years ago with terror attacks from a few idiots, who have been thinking that they can rule the world by killing innocent people. Isn't it time to stop this war for the favor of the next generation? Are such power hungry Imams like Abdurrahman ibn Abdulaziz as-Sudais, whos like to continue a war, which they cannot win, only for killing their own boredom, so important for their followers that they are not able to use their own brain? Are all the Muslims already brainwashed that they even not try to stop their dirty henchmen? After 33 years of terrorism is there no other way available than to put all these terrorists and their leaders into jail. That is the only reason for the alliance fighting against terrorism. If you take away this reason then the alliance has no reason to continue their bombings, which hits innocent people too. There is no way to make some capital out of it. Years ago I have been reading sometimes that the bad US alliance are only fighting for the available oil in the Arabian countries. The problem is only where shall get the oil used? The leading car manufacturers are all already promoting electric driven vehicles. It has been only a wishful thinking from uneducated people that the reason for the war is oil.

A very good comment, which explained how people can coexists with each other has been coming from Dave Aubin:

Thank you for the opportunity to weigh in. I am new to this, before i only listened to what was available. I will admit that it has been a challenge to understand. I have asked and have recieved some insight from friends on this site that are helping me. To understand i found that i had to remove all preconceived thought and start over. Here is what i found to date.
That we are all just human beings. We all have basic needs to live. Human beings who have been abused and/or marginalized will feel and react in a simular way. Here we have many Religions, too many to count, but each retreats to their own group and basically operate and live together but yet isolate themselves as they believe only they know the real truth. I think i do not care that they behave this way as long as they are not harming anyone else. Should they choose to fight among themselves, so be it. I will just watch as i have no interest. My interest is only that all people are the same and i do not condone...


Mistreatment of anyone. Any animal will fight if cornered and feel threatened. I do not expect any less from Human.
The question for me is that at what point did we begin to seperate and believe that we were above nature or could control nature. To understand our mental limits. To move forward we must look in the mirror and ask ourselves some very serious questions. If we were created in her or their image than we must work to prove that we are worthy. To date we have failed. And that is the ultimate challenge. She is not going to help us. She expects us to use the gift she gave us to rise above the primitive. To date we have proved that we have the power to destroy ourselves. Hardly a step in the right direction.

Another comment is showing that some people are thinking that they can make someone else guilty for the fails from their own rows. Some people are searching the failures from others instead from taking a look into the mirror and start by themselves:

Zaheer MirzaDear Rudolf Faix ... why are there refugees in the first place? Could Germany, other European countries or US done something to stop this from happening? Were some of these governments partly responsible to create this situation?

We need to stop addressing symptoms ... we need to go to root causes. What roles did various governments play to stop people becoming homeless?

The refugees are victims from a war started from Islamic terrorists against the rest of the world. It is humanity for taking care for these people. Asking for the root causes is nothing else than a joke. The Islamic terror started during the early 80ths and continues until now - 33 years. It is a problem of the Islamic world to stop these terrorists who are killing in the name of Allah.

Zaheer MirzaThese refugees were living in environments very different to what they have found themselves in post migrating to Europe. It does not take a scientist to conclude that you can't expect very controlled people to find complete freedom and have no negative consequences.

In the above comment gets even confirmed that the Islam religion is a totalitarian system without any freedom and controlled from the religion. Sure that people who are relocating from such a system have problems to find their own way in a free world.

Zaheer MirzaThis is similar to another simple reality that so many seem unable to comprehend - you can't eliminate terrorism by war. We all have seen the picture of the child who was dragged from the rubble - what will he become?

The terrorists have started with their attacks the war against the Western World. Like you see in the prayer from Abdul Rahman Al-Sudais supported from the highest Imams. That shows why the Muslims are not acting against the terrorists, who are killing in the name of Islam. Shall the Western World wait until they are getting slaughtered? Why did you not use it if you know a better method stopping the terrorists? As you don't have any working method found during the last 33 years why others shall wait in fighting against the terrorists? Don't forget that there is a way to reduce the terror coming from one region. The end of the second world war has shown it. The result will be not only one crying child. A lot of innocent people would lose their life and the area will be a desert for thousands of years.

Any comments on comments made by Dr. Mohammad Omar Farooq? He made a lot of effort to answer the original question.

Dr. Mohammad Omar has completely failed the topic. Here is the discussion about how to make a better world for all and not about understanding the Islam. Deeds have more weights than words and everybody is free in his own decisions and beliefs. Nobody will ask if the intentions are sincere if someone kills himself with a bomb in the middle of a crowd by yelling "Allahu akbar". The result is still the same. Whom do you like to explain the Islam in this case?

Some others like Nazim Ali misunderstood the topic of the posting and of the group completely wrong:

Nazim Alithough I usually refrain myself the posts and commenting in this group but as Zaheer Mirza has named me so its my responsibility to respond about this .. first of all I would like to as Mr. Rudolf Faix about a few words he used... wahabbism..? what exactly wahabbism means about and how it was originated..? how wahabbism is associated with the roots of ‘house of saud' ..? what the term jihadi, jihad means in comprehensive way..? what is the context of particular phrase in which the word used by imam in a prayer during such communal gathering..?
please answer me these few questions and then I will start explaining it...


well after reading a blurry and staggering response from the person claiming that imam invoked jihadist and prayer for them.... I m done.... because you are also inspired by the similar problem of relying in media though urging others to deny that.... next time before raising a question please take a thorough look on the things you going to post...

The group is named Better Future4Earthlings and not discussion about the exact meanings of some words. It does not matter what I'm understanding about some words. Important is what the crowd is understanding by the named words when they are reading them in the international press. I wish Nizam Ali good luck by explaining some words to the masses while the terrorists are making his explanations to a lie. With neglecting the news from other countries and other opinions nobody can win something. Such comments got expected from narrow minded people. Simple to summarize: "I simple not believe it and for this reason it cannot be".

Dr. Mohammad Omar FarooqA little bit better has been the comment from Dr. Mohammad Omar Farooq, but still far away from the real topic. He tried to convince me about the Islam religion. Sorry, but the crowd has a negative view about the Islam, because the actions from the terrorists, who are killing in the name of the Islam are speaking louder than any words. Victims from the Islamic terrorist and their family members are not interested if the terrorist has been a true Islamist or a fake one. That does not change something for them. The result is still the same. These actions are the problems and not the real teaching of Mohammed. Whom do you think you can convince that the Islam is a peaceful religion if your leaders are praying for power for the Jihadists for killing others? Do you think that the crowd in the Western World is the same way uneducated like in the countries of the Islamic world?

One comment from Dr. Mohammad Omar Farooq is for me very strange:

Salam, Mr. Faix. If the Saudi Grand Mufti made such a statement, it is something to be deeply concerned. However, before we jump to conclusions, I opened the link and visited the site. Quite interestingly, the "About" button is disabled. Even more interesting is the fact I could not identify a single such report from any of the mainstream media. If it was said, it would be a big news not to be picked up by others. For the credibility of this report, it would be helpful if alternate sources from mainstream media is provided. Thanks and warm regards.

My article has no links inside and my website does not have an About link. My website has a disclaimer box and a link to the full disclaimer including my contact details. As he even did not mention which link he has followed I'm not able to know about which About button he is writing. At this time got provided from only one link to a WikiPedia article and one link to the Austrian newspaper kronen.at, an old newspaper company with a good reputation. As the content from krone.at is written in German, there cannot get an About-Link found. Other links to my sources got provided at the end of the discussion. So I really don't know which website the guy is meaning.

Even some very narrow minded people have left their comments to the posting. One from these people who are believing something only for the reason it is written somewhere is Robert San Miguel / Vasquez. This guy has even not been reading the full article and even don't know the name of the group. He think that he needs only to write some statements and everybody will believe and agree with him. The professional golfer Robert San Miguel / Vasquez is even contradicting himself in his statements. He is simple starting with the words "This is nonsense" without the knowledge what is really written in the article. He like to compensate his missing knowledge with big words:

Robert San Miguel / VasquezThis is nonsense ! Islam isn't the culprit. The true catalyst to all world conflicts are the fake lying Ashkenazi Jews. The real imposters. They love to cause " social disorder ".


These f kers are the filthiest of all in humanity.

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm

Why ? Because they love to cause " social disorder " then they get the boot ... But now with them stealing / occupying a state they are centralized to cause havoc across the Middle East like a wolf in sheep clothing. Isis is Israel ... Israel is Isis.


The world is blind or easily mislead by pure propaganda .... The Hebrew Jews left dark skinned from Israel and now returned " white " ! Really world wake up ! Speak up ! Stop this nonsense of " white washing " history.


We have more than enough American wealth to have them removed its their venom of fangs are biting into all other countries ! They are vile... the children of Satan " their father is the King of lies and deceit.


The Jews declared war on Germany ! Not Germany declaring war ! They lived in Germany and wanted to conquer! Hitler saw it growing up so yes it was his personal mission to rid those vile people off the earth ! And skin color is the racism all humanity is taught daily. It makes a huge difference! It's called being an impersonator to deceive the world with their bs " emotional ideology " of nonsense main stream media propaganda.


John 8:44

You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

And the truth isn't hate ..its those that hate the truth that are in denial


The end of humanity is in Revelations and guess who is the culprit causing " social disorder "

Revelation 2:9
I know your afflictions and your poverty--yet you are rich! I know about the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9
I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.

Even in the Quran they are the evil ones ! Sorry it's in all the holy books of the vile ones in humanity the great imposters of lies and deceit.


Rudolf Faix bro I didn't kill Jesus or any of the holy prophets ..... But I can tell you who did and show you through the Torah Old and New Testament or even the Quran.

Ponder ??

Jesus = Muslims love and recognized Jesus as…


The truth isn't an insult brother ! I love God ! God knows what's in my heart I refuse to conform what others deem correct in society. God lives through me so I will always do my best in speaking and seeking the truth.


Rudolf Faix the holy books are not a lie but they do tell of the " great liars in humanity "


99 percent of Islam is super peaceful and that other 1 percent that are bad are driven by those that cause the social disorder. The world the UN has displaced thousands and thousands of people from the regions of the Middle East so yes cultures will clash but it's all premeditated pre-orchestrated by those occupying Israel !


Religions are man made up first of all. That's the issue for those practicing organized religions. Islam and Christianity are not religions ! ..it's a way of life not what the main stream media ( idiot box / tv ) feeds the masses to indoctrinate.


Rudolf Faix who caused the displacement of those Muslims in Europe ? Of course there will be huge cultures clashed they knew that when they caused the displacements !


I lived for over 10 years of my life serving my country over in the Middle East and when I say I lived .. I adapted to their culture I walked amongst them and even pray with them. Do not believe what you read or see fed through main stream media

As I have asked him: "Robert San Miguel / Vasquez, which Islamic war do you mean with replacement of the Muslim from Europe? Between 1423 and 1878 had happened 10 unsuccessful wars initiated from the peaceful Muslims against Europe. Sorry that Europe did not welcome them." I got the following reply from the deadbeat:

Rudolf Faix heading to play golf I'll catch up with you later. Have a blessed day 🙏🏻

I did not hear something again from the fake profile from Robert San Miguel / Vasquez - the professional golfer who likes to be from the US. LOL

Here you can download the full thread with all comments: Is the sentence that the Islam is a peaceful religion only a bad joke.pdf (901.75 kb)

 

Would your God lie to you?

Why he should? He is omniscient. He can not win something if he lies to you. It would be hard to believe again if you catch someone telling you a lie. If someone would find a contradiction in the holy scripts then it would be a transcription, translation error or an interpretation failure. The religious leaders found at the world are protecting the word of their God. You should think that they are very well educated and are knowing how to interpret the holy scripts by knowing the exact meaning of the old language. How can it happen in this case that a lot of the religious leaders are failing in exact the case where they should be the masters of the holy scripts?

Abd al-Aziz ibn Abd Allah ibn BaazA very big fail made the Grand Mufti Abd al-Aziz ibn Abd Allah ibn Baaz, the Chancellor of the Islamic University of Medina (1970-1975), and the Chairman of Saudi Arabia's Department of Scientific Research from 1975. He issued a based-on-the-Koran "fatwa" (pronouncement concerning Sharia law) in 1976, which claimed that the Earth is flat, and anyone, who said otherwise, was blaspheming.

I think I need not bring here some links for proofing the statement form the Grand Mufti Abd al-Aziz ibn Abd Allah ibn Baaz. If you are using your favorite search engine and enter islam flat world, you'll find enough results in this case and you can also find the "fatwa". You'll also be able to find the different interpretations for the idea of the Grand Mufti. In any case it shows the quality of education the Grand Mufti Abd al-Aziz ibn Abd Allah ibn Baaz got and the quality of education from the University of Medina if such a person has been their Chancellor. What the students could have learned from such a deadbeat?

He even had issued 1966 another Koran-based fatwa, which said that the Earth did not revolve, or orbit the Sun; instead the Sun orbited the Earth. He issued yet another fatwa in 1982, which reiterated his belief that the Sun orbited the Earth, and that anyone, who did agree with him, would be declared an infidel.

If such a nonsense would really be written in the Quran then it would be a proof that the Quran does not contain the words from Allah. Allah has no reason to distribute wrong information to his followers. It is more a sign that your religious leaders are even not understand the words written in the Quran. How can you trust into their words? Is it not time to use your own brain in such a case?

A Saudi cleric becomes online laughing stock after telling student the sun rotates around the Earth as otherwise planes would not be able to fly:

  • Sheikh Bandar al-Khaibari claimed Earth is stationary and the sun rotates
  • Offered religious statements and clerical comments to back up his belief
  • Also launched into baffling explanation about airliners never being able to reach their destination if the earth was truly moving
  • Also claimed NASA moon landings are the stuff of Hollywood fabrication

You don't believe that someone is so stupid - here is the online video from the year 2015 and it is not only published in the Western World only, you'll even find it at Al Arabiya:

How someone can give his life for a religion where the teaching is proven wrong? Do you really think that such idiots have not changed the word of God into their own favor over the time? If we remember the content from the video I published yesterday in the article Mullah Krekar in Norway gives chilling and honest interview about Islam and the West, there the Mullah said: "We will defend our religion with your own blood." I can understand that uneducated people will believe in such stupid teachings from uneducated leaders. Such uneducated and power horny people like to rule the world? I think that before this can happen, Allah will come back and kill these idiots by himself.

Here are some more examples why educated people will not take any Muslims for serious:

In 2010, Sheikh Abdul Mohsin al-Abaican, a consultant at the Saudi royal court, was also widely mocked in Western media for issuing a breast-feeding fatwa, which said that women can get around Saudi Arabia's ban on unrelated men and women mixing by feeding their breast milk to men, as doing so would make those men sons of those women.

The Sheikh said that women should not breastfeed men, just feed them their breast milk, but another Saudi cleric, Sheikh Abi Ishaq Huwaini, quickly disagreed with the fatwa, because, in his opinion, women had to actually breastfeed a man like she would breast her baby.

Gamal Abdel Nasser might have thought that such primitiveness was confined to Saudi Islamist circles, but in 2007, an Egyptian cleric, Dr. Izzat Attiyah of Egypt's Al-Azhar University – the most prestigious educational institutions in the Sunni Islam world – also issued a fatwa, which too said that women can breastfeed men to get around the Islamist ban on the mixing of sexes.

Sheikh Muhammad al-Munajid, who may have partly learned his gift for making hilarious statements from Grand Mufti Abd al-Aziz ibn Abd Allah ibn Baaz, under whom he studied Islamic law, was widely mocked in Western media in 2008 when he said that Mickey Mouse was a soldier of Satan, who should die along with Jerry of the "Tom and Jerry" cartoon, because Sharia law calls for all mice to be killed. He also issued a fatwa, which discussed whether it was permissible to eat mermaids.

Another fatwa by an unnamed Saudi cleric, translated by the New York Times from the Saudi newspaper "Al-Watan", recommended 15 ridiculous changes to the international rules of football to ensure that Saudis do not play that game as people of other religious beliefs do. For example: "6. Do not play in two halves. Rather play in one half or three halves in order to completely differentiate yourselves from the heretics, the polytheists, the corrupted and the disobedient."

Moreover, in 2001, Egypt's top Islamic cleric, Grand Mufti Sheikh Ali Gomaa, issued a fatwa, which said that drinking the urine of the prophet Mohammed was a blessing. He did not explain how a man, who has been dead since 632, could produce urine for people to drink.

It is not that only Sunni Islamic clerics issue such ridiculous statements. In 2010, Iranian Shi'ite cleric Hojatoleslam Kazem Sedighi blamed scantily clad women for earthquakes, as this Los Angeles Times article explains.

It seems that even Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Asheikh has been not even only mentally deranged. He has been one of the pedophiles too, because he stated it's an injustice to NOT marry girls aged 10, says Saudi cleric.

Who will be able to recognize a religion with such leaders as a serious one? But don't worry because a few hundred years ago the Christian leaders have acted the same way. So it will take a few hundred years until the Muslim will recognize that such leaders are not really mental healthy and will go on distance to such incompetent leaders and send them there where should be already - to a madhouse.

Who should take a religion as an serious teaching if their leaders are such big fails?

 

What happens if stone age culture meets the Western World?

Oktoberfest Munich GermanySome uneducated and intolerant people leaving their own country for living in freedom and without persecution. They are even too stupid informing themselves first to which direction they should escape. These people are thinking that the world is turning around them and the Islam and are expecting that others are changing their own views into their favor.

One of these uneducated people is Morad Almuradi, who is now living at the Netherlands and is expecting that the government of Munich will stop one of their largest party - the Munich Oktoberfest. The deadbeat is thinking that local people have to change their lifestyle only for the reason he and some other Moslem can get offended from the local customs. If someone leaves his country for any reason for living in another country then this have to change his lifestyle and accept the local rules and not opposite round. If someone expect that he can continue his living on the traditional way then he has to chose a country where this is possible and not expecting from others that they will change themselves into his favor. Such narrow minded people like Morad Almuradi are only destroying the helpfulness from the local people and are converting their mind into xenophobia. Morad Almuradi is only one example from these narrow minded people who has chosen the wrong destination for his escape. There are getting 56 Muslim countries found at the world. Why has he not chosen one of them for his escape?

With his own intolerance against other cultures he likes to get accepted? Sorry, but such people need to get sent back to the hole where they have been coming from. If such people are getting prosecuted in their own country then would it be for the same reason for what they are trying to do in foreign countries.

Let's take first a look at the online petition what Morad Almuradi has started at change.org:

Morad Almuradi - the idiot who is thinking that the world is turning around the Islam and himselfBan the Intolerant and Anti-Islamic event of Oktoberfest

Dear City council of Munich,

I am writing this letter to bring to your attention something that I and many Muslims believe is unfair and requires attention. I would like to inform you that the Oktoberfest is an Intolerant and Anti-Islamic event. We tried to ignore the event, but there too many Un-Islamic acts done at the Oktoberfest. Such as alcohol consumption, public nudity etc.

We understand that the Oktoberfest is a yearly German tradition, but we, Muslims, can not tolerate this Un-Islamic event, because it offends us and all Muslims on the earth. We are requesting the immediate cancellation of the upcoming Oktoberfest event.

We also believe that the Oktoberfest might also offend all the Muslim refugees coming from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan. The cancellation of the Oktoberfest event will help refugees not to forget their Islamic history. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely,

Morad Almuradi

 

Dear Morad Almuradi,

I have a few questions to you:

  • Why have you chosen Europe for your relocation?
  • Did you not know that government and religion are in Europe strictly separated?
  • Did you not know that religion is in other countries a private matter?
  • Do you not know that you have been coming to Europe and not Europe has been coming to you?
  • Do you not like to build up the same situation here from which you have been running away?
  • You are expecting that others shall respect your wishes. On the other site you are so closed minded that you are not able to accept the lifestyle from others. Do you think that your behavior is a basement for building up a relationship with European people?
  • Why did you not chose one of the 56 Muslim countries for your escape? I think that you only like to take advance from the European social system without paying one Cent into it. The local people have built up and paid into this social system, which is now paying your expenses and the expenses of the refugees arriving in Europe. In my opinion are you nothing else than a parasite. Do you think that parasites are welcome in any country?
  • If your religion does not allow you to drink some alcohol then do not drink it. But open minded people will even not let themselves influence from your views and your religion. Why do you not go home or to a country where your views are matching with your religious believes, if you are getting offended in your religious views from the tradition and behavior of others? Nobody has called or invited you coming here and nobody will keep you back if you like to leave us.
  • Do you not think that you are overstrain the patience from the people who have welcomed you in Europe?
  • Do you not think that you are the best example for these political parties, who has as their slogan "Foreigners go home"? You and others with the same views are one of their arguments!
  • grilled rear pork legDo you really think that others will stop eating their favorite food only for respecting your religious views? Don't forget you have to integrate yourself into the community here and not others have to accept your narrow minded views.
    At the picture on the right site you'll see one of my favorite dishes - grilled rear pork leg with salads and beer. 

Morad Almuradi you have to integrate yourself into the community of the country where you are living and not the community has to change their traditions! If you not understand this fact then it would better for you to search for a country which is matching your expectations. Nobody keeps you back. If you are not welcome there then it is your fault and not the fault of others. So don't overestimate yourself.